Physical Health | Faith For Real Life Podcast
How does caring for our bodies impact our overall well-being…and even our faith? In this episode, Pastor Ken sits down with Dr. Kelly Polzin, a chiropractor and nutrition advocate, to talk about physical health. Kelly shares why inflammation is such a key factor in how we feel, what role food prep can play in preventing health pitfalls, and why managing our bodies well is also a spiritual matter. Whether you’re a seasoned gym-goer or just looking to feel a bit healthier, this conversation offers practical tips and faith-driven motivation to help you steward the body God has given you.
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- All right.
Speaker:Well, welcome back to the podcast.
Speaker:We have been in a series
called New Year New
Speaker:You on Sunday morning.
Speaker:So we're teaching about
five areas of health
Speaker:that are important to us as people,
Speaker:but it's also important to God
Speaker:and the Bible gives us both commands
Speaker:and counsel, uh, in order
Speaker:to grow in greater health in these areas.
Speaker:And so today we're talking
about physical health. Okay.
Speaker:All the gym rats are
all excited about this.
Speaker:Everyone else is like, oh,
that I'm, I'm turn this off.
Speaker:No, stay. Listen, even if you're
not into physical activity
Speaker:or nutrition stay, it's gonna be good.
Speaker:I promise you. So our guest
today is Dr. Kelly Polson.
Speaker:Hey, Kelly. Hey. You're here.
Speaker:- I am here. Alright.
- Well, yeah.
Speaker:- Despite the weather, I'm
- Here. Yeah. It's bad today.
Speaker:So you are a chiropractor by trade? Yes.
Speaker:Some people say that chiropractors
aren't, aren't doctors.
Speaker:I don't say that. Have you
heard that before? Just
Speaker:- For 25 years, ?
Speaker:- Yes.
- I've also heard, uh, wow.
Speaker:You're not a quack at all.
Speaker:- Okay. I've heard,
- Uh,
Speaker:you're the only real doctor out there.
Speaker:Yeah. So you get, you get the mix,
Speaker:and it all depends on
what you've been able
Speaker:to help people achieve.
Speaker:- Yeah. So, but you don't
really do that too much anymore.
Speaker:- I don't, I did, uh,
uh, like 20 years. Yeah.
Speaker:Um, or just shy of 20 years
Speaker:and I've just kind of really
Speaker:refocused everything towards nutrition.
Speaker:Okay. And inflammation.
Speaker:- Tell me about that.
- Okay.
Speaker:So I believe that I've
gone through this process
Speaker:of reinvention and it,
Speaker:and it's primarily out
of, been out of necessity
Speaker:because what I've been observing
over the past 20 years is
Speaker:that our society is just
getting less and less healthy.
Speaker:And it's, um, it's something that there's
Speaker:so much misinformation out there.
Speaker:There's so many gurus
that are just out there
Speaker:and they saw something that
worked for their cousin Eddie.
Speaker:Yeah. And they think, oh,
Speaker:if this worked for him,
it'll work for you.
Speaker:Yeah. Let's do a cabbage
soup fast. And it's just like
Speaker:- Liver king that his name
- .
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah. Right. And there's
so much misinformation.
Speaker:So I deal with this every
day of, of educating people
Speaker:that it, it, it isn't, it
doesn't have to be as complex as
Speaker:what people make it out there to believe.
Speaker:Yeah. You can completely transform your
Speaker:health starting with basics.
Speaker:Yeah. And, and that's where I
spend my whole life now. Yeah.
Speaker:Is, is really in the world of education
Speaker:and intervention. Okay.
Speaker:- Particularly in regards
to what we put in our body.
Speaker:- What, what? Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
Speaker:Um, I, it's the 95 5 or
Pareto's principle of 80, 80 20.
Speaker:But really 95%
Speaker:of your health is gonna come
from what you put in your mouth.
Speaker:Okay. Uh, I only need like
5% of your life to exercise.
Speaker:Yeah. Uh, and balance hormones.
Speaker:But everything else is going to
Speaker:what you put into your mouth Yeah.
Speaker:And the state with which you put it in.
Speaker:- So that idea, or saying
Speaker:that you can't out train
a bad diet, it's true
Speaker:- That I use that daily.
Speaker:Yeah. You'll never outrun a bad diet.
Speaker:- Okay. So if I'm in the
gym three hours, you know,
Speaker:doing some HIIT workouts,
lifting heavy weights,
Speaker:doing some stretching,
Speaker:and then I just eat, you
know, processed food,
Speaker:food in a box, food that has
an expired date, you know,
Speaker:in 20, you know, 28.
Speaker:Right. You're telling me
Speaker:that I can't work hard
enough in order to Okay.
Speaker:- Never. You will never,
ever outwork that.
Speaker:And, and that is, uh, the big fallacy
Speaker:because you can actually
make yourself sicker.
Speaker:So actually, when I take a patient in, one
Speaker:of the first things I actually
take away is exercise.
Speaker:Other than your daily
activities of living,
Speaker:I don't want you, 99%
Speaker:of my patient load comes in
massively inflamed already.
Speaker:They're already dealing
with chronic inflammation.
Speaker:And that can be from the gut.
Speaker:Uh, non-alcoholic fatty
liver disease is one of the,
Speaker:it is actually now the number one cause
Speaker:of chronic liver failure in North America.
Speaker:Okay. And here's the crazy
thing is that in, in: Speaker:it didn't even exist. Hmm.
Speaker:- It wasn't So what's going on then?
Speaker:Just the way food is produced,
Speaker:- The way that food is produced
Speaker:and the way that we're consuming it.
Speaker:Okay. And, and we're not,
we're, we're not understanding
Speaker:that the body, like I have so many issues
Speaker:with these like fad diets,
Speaker:like the carnivore diet mm-hmm . Um,
Speaker:- Just meat all the time.
Speaker:- Just meat all the time. And Oh, that
Speaker:- Sounds actually pretty good.
Speaker:I just do that 'cause I'd want it.
Speaker:- Oh, well, hey, that was the same thing
Speaker:with the keto diet Right.
Speaker:Or the Adkins diet. You
can live on bacon. Yeah.
Speaker:And, uh, all we're seeing
is that like the guy
Speaker:that created the Adkins diet, he died
Speaker:of a cardiovascular event.
Speaker:The guy that created
the carnivore diet, uh,
Speaker:Dr. Paul Saladino last
year in: Speaker:and kudos to him.
Speaker:Like seriously. He said, okay guys,
Speaker:I'm letting you know I'm
not doing this anymore.
Speaker:Okay. I was testing my blood work,
Speaker:my blood work got worse
and worse and worse.
Speaker:Now my testosterone's at an all time low
Speaker:- Man working at people in the comments.
Speaker:'cause people get so attached
to their diets, like, they go,
Speaker:like, they, I was like paleo for a while.
Speaker:Like when I, how long was that?
Eight years. It was great.
Speaker:But I remember at the time
being like, no. Right.
Speaker:And just being really
militant about kind of paleo.
Speaker:And so I know how people can get Oh yeah.
Speaker:People really find their
identity. Hate, hate mail.
Speaker:- And the thing of it is, is like
Speaker:- So direct that to Dr.
Kelly pollin@gmail.com.
Speaker:Is that actually email? Pretty
Speaker:- Close actually. Okay. ,
Speaker:- Thanks. My bad.
Speaker:- Uh, yeah, no, I see,
I see that all the time.
Speaker:Everybody becomes very myopic
Speaker:and uh, you know, they believe
that what they're doing,
Speaker:given them by some guru Yep.
Speaker:Is the, the solution.
Speaker:And the fact is that what works for me
Speaker:will not work necessarily for you
Speaker:because we have different blood chemistry,
Speaker:we have different histories,
Speaker:we have different medication use,
Speaker:we've been through different things.
Speaker:Yeah. We've had different expo
exposures environmentally,
Speaker:uh, and, and otherwise.
Speaker:And if we don't address you
Speaker:as an individual, how can I cuss?
Speaker:How, how can I tell you what
Speaker:to do if I don't know
what you've done? Yeah.
Speaker:- Okay. I, I wanna pick up
on something that you said.
Speaker:You said when people come
to see you, you ask them
Speaker:to stop exercising.
Speaker:Yeah. Is that
Speaker:because it's just too hard
Speaker:to maintain discipline in
all these different areas?
Speaker:Is it just so they can focus
Speaker:and be disciplined sort
of in this, this one area?
Speaker:Because discipline isn't a
never ending resource. Right.
Speaker:And so I can say no to a donut
at in the breakfast. Right.
Speaker:But eight o'clock it's a lot
harder to say no to a donut.
Speaker:Is that sort of the idea? Or,
or what's behind that? Not at
Speaker:- All.
Speaker:Oh, great. This, this
is it right here. Okay.
Speaker:So if your body can only
manage so much stress,
Speaker:which is 90, like I said, 90%
of our patient base comes in,
Speaker:in a chronically inflamed state.
Speaker:Okay. So everything creates inflammation.
Speaker:Now not all inflammation is bad,
Speaker:but your body has to deal
with all inflammation, whether
Speaker:that's chronic or acute.
Speaker:But if your bucket is already
like right to the top mm-hmm .
Speaker:Full of inflammation,
you can't add any more
Speaker:inflammation to that bucket.
Speaker:- Okay. So
- The first thing we wanna do is reduce
Speaker:the inflammation in the body.
Speaker:And that usually takes
between minimum 28 days,
Speaker:but up to 45, even 60,
depending on your state.
Speaker:And as the bucket starts to empty,
Speaker:and we can reduce systemic inflammation,
Speaker:now adding something that's acute to it,
Speaker:which promotes healing,
we'll benefit the body huge.
Speaker:But anytime that we implement
something too early,
Speaker:like I think fasting is a great example
Speaker:because everybody thinks
fasting is the answer.
Speaker:And fasting can be great
if you do it with a lot
Speaker:of knowledge and you do it
in a healthy body. Yeah. So
Speaker:- We're not talking about
the spirit of discipline
Speaker:of fasting in order to
Speaker:No, no. We're talking about different,
Speaker:- We're talking about like, again,
Speaker:- Physical health based fasting.
Speaker:- Right. The, the gurus that are like, oh,
Speaker:intermittent fasting is the answer.
Speaker:Uh, it could be the
answer for some people,
Speaker:but it's not for a lot.
Speaker:- I looked into it one time
and it wasn't actually too long
Speaker:ago just as like a challenge
for something to do.
Speaker:- And it - Was way too
complicated. It was way too hard.
Speaker:I was like, nah, it's too, too hard. .
Speaker:- And it doesn't have to be hard. Yeah.
Speaker:It, in fact, I I firmly believe
Speaker:after 20 years in this world
Speaker:that the simpler you make something,
Speaker:the more reproducible it is
Speaker:and the easier it is to get compliance.
Speaker:Yeah. If I make, it's so
complicated that you have to climb
Speaker:to the top of Mount Newell
for the eye of Newt Yeah.
Speaker:And make a stew. You're
not doing that. Sure. Yeah.
Speaker:Like, maybe once. Right? Yeah.
Speaker:But not as a regular lifestyle.
Speaker:And until we start
addressing lifestyle changes,
Speaker:we're never gonna get
people back towards health.
Speaker:- Okay. So this is your, this
is sort of your expertise.
Speaker:And I know there's, even
within me, I I, I kind
Speaker:of feel like I understand inflammation,
Speaker:but if you could, you know,
um, how would you describe it?
Speaker:What is it exactly and why is it so bad?
Speaker:- Okay, so you have,
Speaker:and I'm gonna do my best
to paint this as a picture.
Speaker:Yeah. You have, uh, between 13
Speaker:and 30 trillion cells in your body.
Speaker:They're all made up of
a bilipid layer of fat.
Speaker:So fat is the cell
membrane in every single
Speaker:one of the cells in your body.
Speaker:When you have ultra
processed foods, for example,
Speaker:you're actually inflaming
the cell membrane.
Speaker:Now there's some awesome work
done by, uh, Dr. Bruce Lipton
Speaker:that was discussing that the importance
Speaker:of the cell membrane will dictate the
Speaker:overall level of your health.
Speaker:Because if we lose cell
membrane permeability,
Speaker:you can't get nutrients
from the extracellular
Speaker:space into the cell.
Speaker:So you can have all kinds of,
uh, you know, good proteins
Speaker:and carbohydrates
Speaker:and, uh, minerals that are
in the extracellular space,
Speaker:but you can't get 'em in the cell
Speaker:because the cell membrane
is actually inflamed.
Speaker:Okay. But also
Speaker:that cell membrane can't
get waste products out.
Speaker:So the cell actually sits
in its own kind of sludge
Speaker:- Junkiness. Yeah.
Speaker:- And now if you take that and you stole,
Speaker:- It's like a kid in their
diapers and never gets changed.
Speaker:- I've never used that analogy, but
Speaker:- Probably 'cause it's bad.
Speaker:But anyway, ,
Speaker:- But yes, it exactly.
Speaker:Um, and it's just, it's
a, it's an environment
Speaker:that the body can't heal in.
Speaker:Okay. So you become so inflamed.
Speaker:And if you look at this,
I love to use the gut
Speaker:as the primary example of that
Speaker:because if you inflame the gut, uh,
Speaker:your gut is your first line
Speaker:of defense in your immune
system, your gut is
Speaker:produces 95% of your serotonin
that the brain requires
Speaker:to experience the emotion of happiness.
Speaker:So serotonin is a, is a beautiful example
Speaker:because once the gut lining
is inflamed, which can happen
Speaker:through a myriad of different things,
Speaker:even like if you're
stressed when you're eating,
Speaker:you can create inflammation in the gut.
Speaker:When that gut lining is inflamed,
Speaker:your body can't produce the,
uh, the chemicals, the hormones
Speaker:that the body requires
for proper function.
Speaker:Okay. So I look at this really simple
Speaker:because I like to make
everything as simple as possible.
Speaker:You take care of your liver,
you take care of your gut,
Speaker:and you take care of your pancreas,
Speaker:and you can make massive,
Speaker:huge changes in how the body functions.
Speaker:- Fascinating. That's really
fascinating. I'd love to know.
Speaker:Um, so clearly you know what
you're talking about in this,
Speaker:and did I hear that the chemical response
Speaker:that makes us happy happens in our
Speaker:tummies . So our tummies make us happy. .
Speaker:- Yeah. So, so I am like really,
Speaker:really passionate about hormones.
Speaker:Okay. And I'm really
passionate about proteins.
Speaker:- I got a teenager. So, um,
Speaker:I I am not very passionate
about hormones right now. So I
Speaker:- Think you, you're very passionate about
Speaker:hormone balance. Yes.
Speaker:- That's true.
- Right?
Speaker:Because when people's,
Speaker:and you're gonna see if you start,
Speaker:like when you start coming
down this rabbit hole,
Speaker:you just see it all across North America.
Speaker:Men with low testosterone, women are out
Speaker:of whack with their hormones.
Speaker:And they'll, most of them
know that men are obtuse
Speaker:and don't Sure.
Speaker:Uh, and they don't seek care,
which is mind blowing to,
Speaker:but we sedate ourselves so much
Speaker:that we sometimes are unaware of it.
Speaker:However, when we start to
balance those hormones and,
Speaker:and people don't
understand, you are made up
Speaker:of literally 140,000 different proteins.
Speaker:So that makes up your skin, your muscles,
Speaker:your organs, your bones.
Speaker:That's all proteins. And
about 50 different hormones.
Speaker:Hormones are coming from primarily fat.
Speaker:So if you balance the proteins
Speaker:and you get a proper amino
acid profile into the body,
Speaker:and you balance the minerals
through carbohydrates,
Speaker:and then you balance the fats,
Speaker:the body will respond beautifully.
Speaker:And it does it predictably.
Which is the best part.
Speaker:Because now you can say, I have
a very, very high likelihood
Speaker:that if we take those three things
Speaker:and we balance them, your body's
gonna respond beautifully.
Speaker:- Well, thanks. I'd love to
know what, was there something
Speaker:that happened in your life that got you
Speaker:interested in physical health?
Speaker:Not necessarily kind of got
health where you're now,
Speaker:but just, okay, so here's
when I first met you,
Speaker:I was teaching the new
believers course, I believe
Speaker:that was last spring. Spring
Speaker:- Was last January
- Last.
Speaker:Okay. So winter 2024. So
a year ago. A year ago.
Speaker:So, which you're, you're a
fresh Christian. You're fresh .
Speaker:- Well,
- I'm fresh back. Okay. Fresh back.
Speaker:Fresh back back. So I met
you in the New Years course,
Speaker:and I remember I was giving
a talk about the Preto
Speaker:principle, actually you just talked about,
Speaker:and in regards to spiritual health, uh,
Speaker:we were talking about how do we
Speaker:grow in our relationship with Jesus.
Speaker:And, uh, what I was talking
about is there was three things.
Speaker:If you did these three
things, then you're gonna get,
Speaker:you know, 95% the way there.
Speaker:There's other things you can
do, but there's three things.
Speaker:And so then I likened
it to physical health
Speaker:where if you did these
three things, you are,
Speaker:you're gonna be okay.
Speaker:And so I talked about the big three.
Speaker:I was about to talk about the big three,
Speaker:but then I looked over at you and I saw
Speaker:that you were jacked, and I
was kinda like, I bet you,
Speaker:you know what the big three are.
Speaker:Do you remember what I, I told her,
Speaker:okay, so what are the big three?
Speaker:- Sleep, eat, and move. All right there,
Speaker:- It's sleep, eating, and move.
Speaker:Right? And so anyway, if you're wondering
Speaker:what the spiritual big
three are, it was get your,
Speaker:but in church, I've never met a maturing
Speaker:Christian who doesn't come to church.
Speaker:Right. That's sort of the, the prime one.
Speaker:Second one would be Bible
and, and prayer. Right?
Speaker:Those are the, the key
spiritual disciplines to know
Speaker:what God has said and to be
able to speak with him, uh,
Speaker:and spiritual community,
to to be with other people,
Speaker:to help hold you accountable,
to help encourage you.
Speaker:Those are the big three. If you did those
Speaker:three things, you'll be okay.
Speaker:You can do all these other things.
Speaker:You can go on these spiritual treat,
Speaker:you could do all these different things.
Speaker:But if you concentrated
those three things anyway, so
Speaker:that's when I first met you and,
Speaker:and talked about physical health.
Speaker:So I knew before even really
having a conversation about it,
Speaker:that you were, uh,
Speaker:prioritizing physical health in your life.
Speaker:So what got you into it?
Speaker:- Oh, gee. Okay.
Speaker:Well, so I mean, obviously it's
been my profession, but, um,
Speaker:and, and like with full transparency,
Speaker:it's not like I haven't
fallen away from it.
Speaker:But the more that the more that I lose
Speaker:lost control in my life,
the more that I found
Speaker:that there's very few
things I can control.
Speaker:I can control what I eat, you
know, I can control if I move
Speaker:or not, and I can control my
prayer and everything else.
Speaker:I don't find that I have
that control over. Yeah.
Speaker:So when I, when I really
Speaker:- Is that's scary or
freeing to realize that
Speaker:- It both Yeah.
Speaker:100%. Like, um, very freeing to know that.
Speaker:'cause I would say I would be a little bit
Speaker:of a self-proclaimed control freak.
Speaker:I, I don't know if other
people would say that.
Speaker:Probably my kids might agree with me.
Speaker:But, um, yeah, I mean, I, I, there's
Speaker:so few things in my life that
I actually have control over
Speaker:that I really only isolated down.
Speaker:Like, you, you, you strike me
Speaker:as someone who's really always
had your stuff together.
Speaker:And I know that we all
go in our dark places,
Speaker:but I know for myself, I've been in
Speaker:some, some pretty dark places.
Speaker:And when I'm in my darkest,
darkest place, truly can.
Speaker:That's all I can control.
Speaker:I can't, I can't, I can't
control my mood. Yeah.
Speaker:I can't control my, my feelings.
Speaker:I can't control the
world of the environment.
Speaker:Uh, I, I can't control any of that,
Speaker:but I can control what I put in my mouth.
Speaker:Mm-hmm . I can control if I
get in my butt into the gym
Speaker:and actually just shake myself.
Speaker:Yeah. And I can control when
I read out to God. Okay.
Speaker:- So when, when did you figure that out?
Speaker:'cause that's not something an
18-year-old generally figures
Speaker:out, no offense to 18 year olds.
Speaker:But that's not generally something
Speaker:you figure out when you're young.
Speaker:That's something that life has to kind
Speaker:of knock you down a few
times to figure that out.
Speaker:So was that recently?
Speaker:- I would say in my, my, my,
Speaker:in my darkest times would've
been, um, probably in the like,
Speaker:I dunno, 2015.
Speaker:2000. Okay. 14. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:And I didn't have a relationship anymore.
Speaker:I, I felt like I'd burnt
that bridge with God.
Speaker:So I literally only had
food and exercise. Okay.
Speaker:That, that's all I had left.
Speaker:I didn't have that ability
to reach out. So, so
Speaker:- What was that like when
that was all you had?
Speaker:Did you feel like, um, yeah.
Speaker:Did you, did you sense that
you were longing for God?
Speaker:You know, Augustine writes in
his, um, book The Confessions,
Speaker:this really famous prayer
that our hearts are restless
Speaker:until they find rest in him.
Speaker:That idea, Ecclesiastes three 11, right.
Speaker:That, um, we, God has set
our hearts for eternity.
Speaker:And so that, or sees Lewis, you know,
Speaker:he says if there's something
that we long for that is not
Speaker:of this world, then the
most likely reason is
Speaker:because we're made for another world.
Speaker:Right. That's, these are
all these kind of ideas,
Speaker:same ideas, that there's
just something more.
Speaker:And so our bodies matter.
Speaker:That's why we're talking
about this. And you know,
Speaker:I'm preaching a message on the
Speaker:theology of the body this, this weekend.
Speaker:And so I know that our bodies matter.
Speaker:Um, but there is something
more. Did you sense
Speaker:that
- ?
Speaker:It's, it's, uh, you just
totally resonated with me
Speaker:because, um, prior to,
Speaker:I would say 24 months ago,
I, I was, I self-proclaimed
Speaker:as somebody with a restless heart.
Speaker:I could never find peace.
Speaker:And it was the one thing that
it's been searching for since,
Speaker:you know, the mid two thousands
Speaker:or like, like that a
thousand fiveish or whatever.
Speaker:And no matter what I
ever achieved, no matter
Speaker:what I ever did, I was
always had no peace.
Speaker:Mm-hmm . Uh, so I would blow it up.
Speaker:I would achieve something
and blow it up. Yeah.
Speaker:I would create something and blow it up.
Speaker:And it wasn't, it was
relationships. It was business.
Speaker:It was, yeah. You name it.
So, so then what brought
Speaker:- You to Christ second time?
Speaker:- Um, I, my daughter and
I were on a trip in Peru,
Speaker:and we're not supposed to
cry on this. Are we ? We can
Speaker:- Edit that out.
Speaker:ai. We can just put a smile. Yeah. It's
Speaker:- Smiling face over my head.
Speaker:That'd be great. Uh, so
we were on a trip in Peru,
Speaker:and we were about five days in,
Speaker:and she we're in a hotel somewhere.
Speaker:I don't even remember
what town we were in,
Speaker:but we, she kneels down
on her knees before bed
Speaker:and she's praying and I was,
you know, whatever I was doing,
Speaker:reading a book or something.
Speaker:And I looked over and I said,
Speaker:how long have you been doing that?
Speaker:So this was, she's nine, so she was 17.
Speaker:She just finished high school. Yeah.
Speaker:And she's like, since I
was 13 and I was mortified.
Speaker:So I'm in this kind of a process now
Speaker:where I'm really determining
where my self-worth comes from.
Speaker:Mm-hmm. And a lot of my
self-worth comes from my, the,
Speaker:my ability to be a dad.
Speaker:And I was mortified that
I was that bad of a dad,
Speaker:that my daughter had
been preying on her knees
Speaker:and bedtime for five years,
and I didn't know that.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah, yeah. She did
that every night. Yeah. Wow.
Speaker:But it was beautiful because
it completely changed the
Speaker:entire course of the next
three weeks together.
Speaker:And all we did was walk together and talk
Speaker:and talk about Christ and talk about,
Speaker:and she's, she on that
trip said, I'm going
Speaker:to church with grandpa and grandma.
Speaker:Yeah. And I'm like, you should do that.
Speaker:That'll be great for
your relationship. Yeah.
Speaker:And so the first, they literally,
Speaker:that we got back at the
beginning of August,
Speaker:and she was in church that next weekend.
Speaker:And so they phoned me and Was
that at Hope City? Oh, yeah.
Speaker:Okay. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah.
Uh, this church is remarkable.
Speaker:Um, so they come and they phone me
Speaker:and they're like, Hey,
Speaker:are you coming to church this morning?
Speaker:And I'm like, ah, no, I'm not,
Speaker:but you guys have a good time.
Speaker:Yeah. And then they called
me for b from the, they went
Speaker:for breakfast afterwards,
and they're like,
Speaker:well, come for breakfast.
Speaker:And I said, yeah, next time.
Speaker:And I, I thought it was
like a one, maybe a two
Speaker:and done type of a in
Speaker:and out by, by the third Sunday
Speaker:of them calling me saying,
Hey, come for breakfast.
Speaker:I was like, well, I'm
missing breakfast, man.
Speaker:So I said, next Sunday I'll come.
Speaker:And that was like September 1st
Speaker:came into the building
and I was home. Okay.
Speaker:- Wild. And now, I mean, I'm
sure you've missed him Sunday.
Speaker:Oh yeah. You went golfing that
one Sunday, you missed it. .
Speaker:But you're here, like you are. I'm in,
Speaker:- I'm here.
Speaker:Yeah. I, um, I went, oh man.
Speaker:So within a, about three
months of attending regularly,
Speaker:I was, um, I was in a worship session
Speaker:and I, uh, I literally
Speaker:had this sensation that
I had God come down
Speaker:and touch me on the right shoulder
Speaker:and just say, welcome home.
Speaker:Wow. And I, I, I cried
Speaker:so hard for like,
Speaker:I know it was 35 minutes.
Speaker:And, and Gabby my youngest,
she was standing behind me,
Speaker:beside me, and she'd never,
Speaker:I don't think she'd ever
seen me cry before ,
Speaker:but I, I mean, it was uncontrollable.
Speaker:I could not stop. I was just sobbing.
Speaker:And, uh, she puts her hand on my shoulder
Speaker:and she was like, Hey, you okay
Speaker:man,
- .
Speaker:Yeah. Well, you know,
Speaker:I know both your daughter
and they're both fantastic.
Speaker:And Katie, uh, your older girl
is in our ministry school,
Speaker:so I get to sit her and,
Speaker:and, uh, in a classroom sit
with her every Thursday.
Speaker:And she really is a remarkable young lady.
Speaker:And God has, uh, I mean,
she's on fire for the Lord.
Speaker:Like she's someone that when
you're around, you cannot help
Speaker:but be drawn into Christ.
Speaker:She's wild. Yeah. And so I,
yeah. That's awesome. Yeah.
Speaker:Good for you. . Okay.
Speaker:So you have this whole life and history
Speaker:and expertise in this area of health.
Speaker:You have this remarkable, you know, come
Speaker:to Jesus moment, right? .
Speaker:And so how has, how has
your fa your faith, um,
Speaker:either changed or affected
the way that you, um,
Speaker:look at physical health?
Speaker:Or has it, you
Speaker:- Know what, it totally has, because
Speaker:what I've seen in myself,
so in those dark times, um,
Speaker:I don't think it would be
unreasonable to assume, to assume
Speaker:that, uh, many people who go
through the dark times turn
Speaker:to something to sedate
the feelings of darkness.
Speaker:And so, um, my drug of
choice at the time was, uh,
Speaker:alcohol and cigars.
Speaker:And, um, it was,
Speaker:it was like my nightly thing,
Speaker:and I could sedate away
just about, about anything.
Speaker:However, there's a lot
of consequences to that
Speaker:besides the physical side,
is it doesn't allow you to,
Speaker:um, experience what you need
to experience to create change.
Speaker:And so a lot of those times
of the protocols that I did
Speaker:to start the healing process
was specifically 100% just
Speaker:for like, holy crap, I'm
supposed to be healthy.
Speaker:I preach health, and now
this is what I'm doing.
Speaker:And so there was, um, a lot of hypocrisy
Speaker:for myself internally there.
Speaker:And so I did a lot of things
to alter the outcomes,
Speaker:to get rid of fatty liver, to
get rid of, you know, what,
Speaker:um, the health issues that come with that.
Speaker:And in the last say
Speaker:24 months, I've done a lot more.
Speaker:'cause that's, I my passion.
Speaker:I continue to, to, to go into the world.
Speaker:But doing it with Christ in mind
Speaker:just changes everything.
Speaker:Okay. It's so much easier. Right.
Speaker:It's not, it's not a, a, a
discipline of willpower anymore.
Speaker:Yeah. It's not like I
have to say, oh, come on.
Speaker:And, and those times when you
feel like you're gonna quit
Speaker:or feel like you wanna
break down are just, I mean,
Speaker:you know, it's so much easier
to know that you're doing it
Speaker:and it's not just for
some stupid, you know,
Speaker:number on a blood test mm-hmm.
Speaker:Or something like that.
Like, it's actually like,
Speaker:there's a discipline, there's
a relationship between you.
Speaker:There's a, there's a, even
in a level of accountability,
Speaker:just because you said
you were gonna do it,
Speaker:- I really do like what you said there.
Speaker:'cause I think you have figured
something out that a lot
Speaker:of people haven't when it
comes to the relationship
Speaker:between their faith and their body.
Speaker:Um, oftentimes there is
this dualism at play within
Speaker:people that is not new.
Speaker:Right. It's not, you know,
just 21st century Canada,
Speaker:the ancient Greeks had a
version of dualism, you know,
Speaker:ancient, uh, Christian
heresies all with this dualism,
Speaker:which just pitted kind
Speaker:of our inner man against our outer man.
Speaker:You could say, our soul
against the body. You know?
Speaker:Now in our current culture,
Speaker:there is still this
pitting against our soul,
Speaker:against our body called
person head theory,
Speaker:which is this idea that
the bottom realm, uh,
Speaker:our body is not important.
Speaker:Just raw material, just
a biological organism
Speaker:that really doesn't, it's
not intrinsically valued.
Speaker:It's not what it means to be human.
Speaker:Then you have this upper part
of you, which is your person,
Speaker:which is your moral
agency, your, uh, capacity
Speaker:for cognitive activity.
Speaker:That's where your value is.
Speaker:And your only, um,
Speaker:of ethical significance if
you've met a set of criteria,
Speaker:whether that is cognitive capacity is
Speaker:or ability of self-awareness
or moral agency.
Speaker:And then you are a real human
being once you've met that.
Speaker:And so, because our bodies
don't really matter,
Speaker:what really matters is our inner man.
Speaker:And so you have to earn the status
Speaker:of personhood in our culture.
Speaker:Right. Which has, has very,
it's far reaching implications,
Speaker:but again, it's this
new version of dualism.
Speaker:And within a church, we would
say something like this where,
Speaker:you know, first Timothy four for, um,
Speaker:physical training is of some value.
Speaker:Mm-hmm . And when we hear that, we say,
Speaker:we hear physical trainings of no value, .
Speaker:Right? So physical training
gives us some value,
Speaker:but godliness has a value in all things.
Speaker:And so we'll take this
idea of like, well, okay,
Speaker:our bodies don't matter then.
Speaker:Um, but that's just not true
Speaker:because Genesis one,
God created all matter,
Speaker:including the pinnacle
Speaker:of his creation is masterpiece,
which is human beings.
Speaker:And said, it's very good.
Speaker:Your ear lobes, your thumbs,
your kneecaps. It's very good.
Speaker:You know, the God who made
you know great barrier Reef in
Speaker:Australia, or the Victoria
Falls, you know, in Zambia,
Speaker:he also made, you know, my nose right.
Speaker:And he said that it was good,
Speaker:even if I don't like it, right?
Speaker:He said it was good, so I
better learn to love it.
Speaker:And not even that, he still heals us.
Speaker:Well, why does he heal us if
our body doesn't matter? Right?
Speaker:Because we do believe that when we
Speaker:pray in faith, God still heals.
Speaker:Not all the time, but
lots of times he does.
Speaker:It's his heart to heal. And
then in the incarnation,
Speaker:Jesus takes on a human body.
Speaker:And this was an offense to
everybody in first century.
Speaker:This is what set Christianity
apart from everything else,
Speaker:because for God to take on
flesh, that's like corruption,
Speaker:that God would never do that.
Speaker:And so that's why agnostics believed
Speaker:that Jesus only appeared in the flesh,
Speaker:but he wasn't actually human
Speaker:because God would never do that.
Speaker:Because being a human is a prison,
Speaker:and salvation is getting outta your body.
Speaker:And then we got the resurrection.
Speaker:So the resurrection of Jesus
Christ just blows this idea out
Speaker:of the water that our bodies don't matter
Speaker:because Jesus incarnated
in the flesh dies.
Speaker:He's put in a tomb and he
comes back from the dead.
Speaker:And what does he have?
He still has a body.
Speaker:And one of the first, first,
uh, encounters that Jesus has,
Speaker:his disciples in Luke 24, he asked
Speaker:for a snack like he's actually hungry.
Speaker:The resurrected Jesus has a
body, and he asked for a snack.
Speaker:And the promise is that he's
in one Corinthians uh, 15,
Speaker:that Jesus is the first
Speaker:fruits of the resurrection of the dead.
Speaker:Meaning it's what happened to
Jesus is gonna happen to us.
Speaker:So our bodies matter.
Speaker:And then in one Corinthians
six 20, um, Paul says,
Speaker:honor God with your bodies.
Speaker:And why? Because you're
a temple of Holy Spirit
Speaker:and you're bought with a price.
Speaker:So God cares about our bodies,
Speaker:but our goal as Christians
isn't to love our body.
Speaker:That's not our goal. And that
might be pop culture's kind
Speaker:of goal to love your body.
Speaker:That's sort of an assumed
place for Christians
Speaker:where it's like, well, you
love it because a loving God
Speaker:lovingly gifted it to you.
Speaker:And so you love it for
that reason, the way
Speaker:a child might love a wonderful
present from their parents.
Speaker:Right. But that's not the goal.
Speaker:The goal is to love God
with your body. Right.
Speaker:How do I honor God with this gift?
Speaker:And you steward that well, so
that's why nutrition matters,
Speaker:and exercise matters and sleep matters
Speaker:and proper sex matters, right.
Speaker:And hygiene matters. Right.
Speaker:Brush those teeth for the Lord, right.
Speaker:As an act of gratitude to God.
Speaker:And so that's sort of that idea
Speaker:that you stumbled upon, right.
Speaker:That you kind of figured
out. And so that's awesome.
Speaker:- Yeah. I would say to that, to add
Speaker:my little distinction to that,
Speaker:because like everything
you just said was like 100%
Speaker:congruent with me, is that I found
Speaker:that the body and the
brain people segment them.
Speaker:Mm. And they're, there's there, they're,
Speaker:there can't be a segment.
Speaker:Mm-hmm . How you treat your body
Speaker:is how you treat your brain.
Speaker:Mm-hmm . And when you
pray, how can you connect
Speaker:to God if a, you've got all
these health ailments, um,
Speaker:that are, you know, oh, I can't kneel
Speaker:'cause I can't bend my knees
as a very lame example.
Speaker:Um, but if you haven't protected
your brain, if, uh, okay,
Speaker:so let me take a little left turn here.
Speaker:Mm-hmm . Type three diabetes
Speaker:- I ever heard of type three.
Speaker:- Okay. So I have been
preaching type three diabetes
Speaker:since 2012.
Speaker:Okay. Alzheimer's has
recently been classified,
Speaker:and you can Google this, please
do to type three diabetes.
Speaker:So it's unmanaged, unregulated
blood sugars for long periods
Speaker:of time affect brain function.
Speaker:And this is not new information,
Speaker:but how hard is it
Speaker:to pray if you don't have
cognitive processing?
Speaker:Sure. Yeah. Right.
Speaker:So I look at that, like,
Speaker:if I could give myself some
advice earlier on in my life,
Speaker:it would've been don't disconnect.
Speaker:Those two. Don't think that
a set of pushups is just for,
Speaker:you know, arms and chest.
Speaker:Yeah. It's not that way.
Speaker:You are doing things
because of what it does
Speaker:to your body and your brain.
Speaker:These are connected units
and if you want to pursue,
Speaker:and I think that that's
been my biggest thing, is
Speaker:that if I wanna pursue
Christ on a level that,
Speaker:that I believe I'm here to do,
I have to take care of this,
Speaker:to take care of this so that I can do
Speaker:what God's calling me to do.
Speaker:- Yeah. You know, Jesus, Jesus
says, out of the overflow,
Speaker:out of your heart, your
mouth speaks this idea that
Speaker:you can't disconnect the two.
Speaker:When you sin, what's sins?
Speaker:You know, is it your hand that sins right?
Speaker:Or is it something else?
I mean, the reality is, is
Speaker:that you can't slice and dice people up.
Speaker:Now, the Bible does talk about
bodies and souls and spirits
Speaker:and flesh, and they use all these terms,
Speaker:but they're not doing it in
the way that, that, um, we tend
Speaker:to do it now, which we
try to downplay, right.
Speaker:The body as like the
whatever and everything.
Speaker:And the soul is the only thing
that matters is you can't,
Speaker:you can't disembody, um,
your soul from your flesh.
Speaker:You just can't do that. And so the,
Speaker:maybe the very most simplest
Christian theological
Speaker:definition of a human
being is an embodied soul.
Speaker:Right. If God wanted to make
you like an angel, I mean,
Speaker:you'd be ghosting it up right
now, right? , he already did
Speaker:that
- .
Speaker:- So, you know, that's a,
that's this wonderful thing
Speaker:of the body that God has gifted us.
Speaker:And to recapture that
gift and honor it, right?
Speaker:The goal of this podcast or teaching this
Speaker:or whatever, is not to
win Ironman races, right?
Speaker:The goal is not to be, you know, jacked.
Speaker:That's not the goal. The goal
is just to, whatever it is.
Speaker:And it could be, again, hygiene.
Speaker:It could be work, it could be rest.
Speaker:Rest is part of your body
Speaker:that we don't take very seriously, right?
Speaker:That's, uh, one decalogue
commandment, right?
Speaker:In the 10 commandments.
Everybody's like, eh,
Speaker:it's not really for us anymore.
Speaker:Right? And that's, that
has to do with our body.
Speaker:And so we can honor God
with our body through rest.
Speaker:We can honor God with our
body for prone to slot
Speaker:or laziness through work, right?
Speaker:There's all these different
ways that we can honor Lord
Speaker:with our body, not just
through what we eat.
Speaker:Now, I'll say this chocolate
Speaker:cake, I think that might be in heaven, .
Speaker:So would you say never sugar? Never.
Speaker:- No, that's not, that's
exactly what I'd say.
Speaker:Do not do that. Okay. Because
Speaker:- Remember, everyone's like breathing.
Speaker:They're like, oh, thank,
no, thank goodness.
Speaker:- At the beginning I said, it's
what you put in your mouth.
Speaker:Yeah. But it's also the state
with which you put it in.
Speaker:Flush that out a little
bit. Okay. Get it flush. So,
Speaker:- Great example,
- Let's say you
Speaker:and I go out to my
favorite restaurant Yeah.
Speaker:And I'm What is
Speaker:- Your favorite restaurant?
Speaker:- Uh, don't
- Say like Freshy or something like that.
Speaker:- No,
- It's no offense, if you're watching ,
Speaker:- It's probably gonna be, uh,
Ruth Chris, right? Oh, okay.
Speaker:- Yeah. Yeah. I've never been,
Speaker:- Uh, they just, it's
super overpriced. Yeah.
Speaker:- That's probably why I've never
Speaker:Yeah.
- .
Speaker:Yeah. Um, you do make a
pretty good steak. Okay?
Speaker:And any good steakhouse though
is where you'd find me. Okay.
Speaker:So yeah, I'm sitting down and
I'm gonna have this stake,
Speaker:and I get halfway through
this beautiful, you know,
Speaker:18 ounce porterhouse, and
then we get in a fight, okay?
Speaker:And it's a pretty heated fight.
Speaker:The second that we start that argument
Speaker:and it, my emotions
elevate, digestion stops.
Speaker:Hmm. And that stake,
Speaker:and let's say it's in towards
the, in, in the evening,
Speaker:and then I go home and
I'm seething over this
Speaker:and I go to bed, that steak
won't start digestion again
Speaker:until I actually go to sleep.
Speaker:And now I'm gonna be
digesting all night long,
Speaker:which is not where you wanna be.
Speaker:You don't wanna be
digesting all night long.
Speaker:Uh, so digestion is
indirect correlation to
Speaker:how your brain's functioning.
Speaker:So the, the gut is actually
called your second brain.
Speaker:And these two communicate
back and forth all the time.
Speaker:And that, that connection will
Speaker:directly determine your overall health
Speaker:and the state at which the gut
is able to produce enzymes.
Speaker:So think of it like if you are
eating food and you're guilty
Speaker:and like, you know, you're having a cake
Speaker:and you're like, oh, I shouldn't be
Speaker:eating this, but I'm eating it.
Speaker:Yeah. You're not even digesting it. Okay.
Speaker:You're not even pulling
the goodness outta that.
Speaker:- So feeling guilty feeling
- Is
Speaker:- Actually worse when
you're eating it. Right?
Speaker:- Okay. Just enjoy it. Yeah.
Speaker:And that's why I say protos
principle works so beautiful,
Speaker:because truly I can show
you a method where 80%
Speaker:of your life, you can
just live and enjoy it,
Speaker:but you gotta do 20% of
the work to get there.
Speaker:Yeah. Right. Get yourself healthy
Speaker:and then maintenance is easy.
Speaker:Mm-hmm . And it's truly about being able
Speaker:to just live in a balance.
Speaker:And I, and I, I, my, one
Speaker:of my things is always,
always delay. Don't deny.
Speaker:- What do you mean
- You, how old are your kids?
Speaker:- Uh, 13, 10, and seven.
Speaker:- Okay. They, that's a good gap. Yeah.
Speaker:So do they eat the cake at the beginning
Speaker:of the meal or at the
end of the meal? Well,
Speaker:- So Harper, my 7-year-old
Speaker:will sneak some at the
beginning, but generally after.
Speaker:- Okay. Well, she's after
my heart. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:I, I like dessert first too.
Speaker:But as a kind of an example,
typically you would wanna wait,
Speaker:so you would want in, in terms
Speaker:of actually we're actually
Speaker:doing an intervention with Harper.
Speaker:We would make sure that
she has her protein first
Speaker:because there is a 100% hormone response,
Speaker:depending on the nutrient that
you put in your mouth first.
Speaker:- Okay. Wild. So if you got a plate,
Speaker:it actually matters the order.
Speaker:- Oh my gosh. It matters
so much, dude, that
Speaker:- Stresses me out.
Speaker:- It doesn't stress you out. It
Speaker:simplifies
- .
Speaker:It does. Okay. It simplifi
Speaker:- Ha ha ha.
Speaker:Because when you understand
that the body works in very,
Speaker:very simplistic ways.
Speaker:Yeah. You would never say,
for example, I'm gonna get a,
Speaker:you're gonna get lots of people
angry with this, but Okay.
Speaker:Like to sit down and
have a bowl of bananas
Speaker:and berries, for example.
Speaker:Yeah. You're setting yourself
up for hormone dysregulation
Speaker:for hours after that.
Speaker:Okay. We would never do that.
Speaker:We would always want
Speaker:to be starting the entire
digestive process with protein.
Speaker:- Why is that?
- Because it alt,
Speaker:it slows the digestion down.
Speaker:Okay. And it slows the insulin response.
Speaker:So remember I said there's
three things we have to always,
Speaker:always be just aware of.
Speaker:Liver, gut, pancreas, pancreatic rest is
Speaker:how we massively change metabolic issues
Speaker:and metabolic issues.
Speaker:If you haven't heard of
it yet, in fact, cool.
Speaker:Kind of cool. Uh, they're,
Speaker:remember I mentioned
non-alcoholic fatty liver disease?
Speaker:Yeah. In 2023.
Speaker:They're putting forth, uh, to rename it
Speaker:as a metabolic issue
Speaker:because it's more
consistent with the cause
Speaker:of non-alcoholic fatty liver
disease than what people like.
Speaker:People don't understand what that means.
Speaker:They understand that
they have fatty liver,
Speaker:but they don't understand it didn't have
Speaker:anything to do with alcohol.
Speaker:Mm-hmm . It presents almost
identically, but it's
Speaker:because of the fact
Speaker:that the liver is starting to retain fat.
Speaker:And we want to change that.
Speaker:And we can do that with, uh, balancing
Speaker:and removing some of
the toxins, obviously,
Speaker:but then balancing the hormone
responses in the body with a,
Speaker:a protein first approach.
Speaker:- So if I can recap
Yes. The chocolate cake,
Speaker:- Yes.
Speaker:To chocolate cake. Have
Speaker:- A chicken breast first ,
- And have your chicken cake and
Speaker:- Have your chocolate cake, uh,
Speaker:- As like you delay it.
Speaker:Okay. So obviously chocolate
cake every day would not be
Speaker:something that I would recommend.
Speaker:Yeah. But my, my like reward
Speaker:for a great week of, you know,
training and, and eating well
Speaker:and sleeping good would
be, uh, a, a nice steak
Speaker:with some roasted vegetables.
Speaker:Uh, six ounce glass of cab
sauce. Yeah. And some cheesecake.
Speaker:Okay. And I'm like, literally, I've like,
Speaker:I've reached the pinnacle Yeah.
Speaker:Enjoyment in that moment because
I've delayed my gratitude.
Speaker:I've delayed my pleasure to a
point where it's not denial.
Speaker:'cause I know I'm gonna have it. Mm-hmm .
Speaker:But I'm gonna have it when I plan it.
Speaker:Not just random, not just coming
home and eating a bag of m
Speaker:and ms 'cause I'm sitting on the couch
Speaker:or a half a tub of Haagen
dos 'cause Netflix is on.
Speaker:Mm-hmm. That's, that's not delay.
Speaker:- Right. And it is, it is such
a challenge, you know, um,
Speaker:you know, you hear it
when I hear you say it.
Speaker:Yeah. But you walk into a grocery store
Speaker:and you see the prices on
a box of processed food.
Speaker:Right. Three bucks for, you
know, a 24 pack of Oreos
Speaker:or something like that, you know,
Speaker:and $10 for a chicken breast.
Speaker:It just seems that it
is really difficult, um,
Speaker:to succeed in this way.
Speaker:Just the way that things
are sort of set up.
Speaker:Of course, it's prices. And
Speaker:- So my response to that is,
Speaker:you'll be shocked how
little you actually need
Speaker:to eat when you're filling the body
Speaker:with the nutrients it requires.
Speaker:So our society is massively
overfed, but undernourished.
Speaker:Okay. And if we change that
Speaker:and we massively nourish
you, you'll be shocked
Speaker:how little your body actually requires.
Speaker:Okay. So, yeah.
Speaker:You know what, chicken breast
is stupid expensive steak
Speaker:off the charts.
Speaker:Yeah. Uh, vegetables. You can
still get a ton of vegetables.
Speaker:Uh, fresh fruit. Yeah. That's expensive.
Speaker:But, you know, really don't
need much fresh, fresh fruit.
Speaker:It's more like a treat anyways.
Speaker:Um, so limiting fresh fruit, uh,
Speaker:and again, that goes against
all the gurus and influencers.
Speaker:Oh, I eat healthy.
Speaker:If you ate healthy, you
wouldn't have all the health
Speaker:conditions you have because
the body's designed to heal.
Speaker:And we just wanna put it in an
Speaker:environment we'll allow
it to do that. Yeah.
Speaker:- So this weekend when we're
talking about physical health,
Speaker:you know, I'm just trying to
help people take one step.
Speaker:Yeah. To where, 'cause
it's, it's, it's just,
Speaker:it can be really daunting
for so many people.
Speaker:Um, it really is.
Speaker:Especially when they realize
Speaker:that they are really deconditioned
Speaker:or, um, their habits are just,
I mean, if they get a piece
Speaker:of fruit in a day, that's,
that's, it's just not part
Speaker:of their, their patterns.
Speaker:And so maybe, maybe they've
made it this far , uh,
Speaker:if you have, and that's you well done.
Speaker:Uh, what is, what is one piece of advice
Speaker:that you give someone if
they're in that place?
Speaker:Just to, just to move forward?
Speaker:- The simplest thing I can really say is
Speaker:start reading labels.
Speaker:Okay. Like, so,
Speaker:and the further you go down
the, the easier it gets.
Speaker:Like, if you can have a
single ingredient food,
Speaker:you're on a really good start.
Speaker:Okay. Single ingredient food.
Speaker:If it's got a ton of ingredients like
Speaker:- Nutella.
Speaker:Right. That's one ingredient. .
Speaker:No, I think if you read
the actual ingredients,
Speaker:you're gonna find there's a lot of, uh oh.
Speaker:So not like the big part of
the label, the small part,
Speaker:- The little part Right.
Speaker:That it has. Right. Um,
Speaker:but if you start reading
those, uh, my kind
Speaker:of rule is try to limit it to four.
Speaker:So if, and if, if something
has four ingredients
Speaker:and you can pronounce them all,
Speaker:it's probably pretty good place to start.
Speaker:But if it has 30 ingredients
Speaker:and you don't know any of, any
Speaker:of them other than canola oil, yeah.
Speaker:- It's probably not as,
- It's probably gonna just create a
Speaker:massive inflammatory storm in your body.
Speaker:Great. So truly simplicity
will rule the day.
Speaker:With regards to nutrition,
you keep it simple.
Speaker:You stay away from packaged foods.
Speaker:And I know that that's hard,
Speaker:but you know what, I, I, I would,
Speaker:I would say this one thing,
if you could do anything
Speaker:that would make the biggest
change in your life,
Speaker:the biggest change in your
life, do some food prep.
Speaker:Okay. Don't come home to a house
Speaker:that you don't know what
you're gonna eat. Okay. So
Speaker:- Tell me, what does your food prep look
Speaker:- Like?
Speaker:Well, my food prep is fun. Okay. Okay.
Speaker:Because it should be fun. Okay.
Speaker:It's just, I either put on some music
Speaker:and I dance around while I'm doing it,
Speaker:or I throw on a football game.
Speaker:Or like, I, I, I don't just sit there
Speaker:and, you know, uh, I actually think about
Speaker:what I'm doing when I'm doing it.
Speaker:Or I'll, like, I'll try to make it fun.
Speaker:I'll, uh, I get my kids involved.
Speaker:Like sometimes we'll all set up that table
Speaker:and we'll just all do it around the
Speaker:table and we'll just talk.
Speaker:Right. Um,
Speaker:but I, I don't want to, I
don't wanna make it a pain.
Speaker:I don't wanna make it that I'm suffering.
Speaker:But my food prep is the sim and,
Speaker:and again, I really hold
simplicity in a high regard.
Speaker:So for me, I take three proteins.
Speaker:I barbecue two of them
and bake the third. Okay.
Speaker:While those are cooking,
I take four to six of my
Speaker:favorite vegetables
Speaker:and I just cut them up
into finger length sizes
Speaker:and I bake those for 23
minutes, uh, with some lightly
Speaker:or lightly salted and
peppered, um, uh, seasonings.
Speaker:Yeah. Uh, no mixed spices.
Speaker:- Do you use oil? Do you use olive oil? I
Speaker:- Use uh, avocado oil.
Speaker:- Avocado oil. - Avocado oil.
Yeah. And that's, that's it.
Speaker:I can get everything done
Speaker:for a whole week in literally
two and a half hours.
Speaker:- Okay.
- So that's a good movie.
Speaker:- Do you do, uh, is
Speaker:that just lunches? Is
that dinners as well?
Speaker:- That for me is, I will
generally in my world, I will skip
Speaker:or I will have nuts and
seeds for breakfast.
Speaker:Mm-hmm . So that's lunch and supper. Okay.
Speaker:- So I've, I just in, uh,
Speaker:automatically meal prep every week.
Speaker:It just been probably for
about 10 or eight years.
Speaker:I always eat the same thing
for breakfast every day,
Speaker:so I don't have to think about it.
Speaker:Right. And then simplicity. Yeah.
Speaker:And so, unless sometimes I get avocados
Speaker:and it's always special in
the morning, but usually
Speaker:it's the same breakfast.
Speaker:And then , you can ask
any of my coworkers,
Speaker:I make chili every Monday.
Speaker:'cause Monday's my day
off for the entire week.
Speaker:And I eat chili every
single lunch. And I love it.
Speaker:It's like the favorite part of my day.
Speaker:It's like, like, ooh, chili tab .
Speaker:I don't think the rest of my
coworkers like it very much,
Speaker:but I just love chili.
Speaker:And I know a lot of people can't do that.
Speaker:They're just like, I can't
eat the same thing every day.
Speaker:And then I meal plan all of
my dinners. So I don't prep.
Speaker:I plan all of my dinners.
Speaker:So on the last day of the
month, I sit down with my wife
Speaker:and we look at kind of our work schedule
Speaker:and who's working nights and is my kin.
Speaker:If, if kin's working at night,
Speaker:then we make sure we
have enough leftovers.
Speaker:But then we just plot in every
Speaker:night what we're going to eat.
Speaker:And then it's nice
Speaker:because we're not thinking
about, you know, if I'm, so,
Speaker:let's say today I didn't have a meal plan
Speaker:and I'm not gonna go home
and make, let's say salad.
Speaker:Right. I'm just not gonna do that.
Speaker:But if on the meal plan
it says Cobb salad,
Speaker:then I just know all day
that's what I'm having tonight.
Speaker:Right. And there's something
about it that's, you kind
Speaker:of take the emotion out of it.
Speaker:And so it's really great
Speaker:'cause then you could prep beforehand
Speaker:and you have the
ingredients that you need.
Speaker:And so I've been doing that for
Speaker:years, like years these years.
Speaker:And when I don't do that,
let's say there's a day that,
Speaker:you know, things get screwed up and,
Speaker:and we don't have a plan.
Speaker:It like stresses me out.
Speaker:And meal, meal time can be really hard
Speaker:for people. It is stressful.
Speaker:- It, it 100% is stressful.
Speaker:So I have so many like single
moms and, uh, as, as patients
Speaker:and, and I get it.
Speaker:'cause I've been there, and
if you don't have a plan in
Speaker:place, it's a gong show.
Speaker:It's the most stressful time
of the day that in bedtime.
Speaker:Right. It's like, ah, it's
like crazy time. Yeah.
Speaker:But it doesn't have to be that way.
Speaker:It can like, two hours is all it takes
Speaker:to set yourself up for
success for the week.
Speaker:Yeah. And I'm like, it's just,
Speaker:and when you're kids, so
that's a big deal for me.
Speaker:But when your kids are
home and they're alone
Speaker:and they open the fridge and
all there is is, you know,
Speaker:vegetables, some protein Right.
Speaker:And some cheese or
whatever. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:There's just not, there was
like, ah, I gotta eat this.
Speaker:Yeah. But you know what?
Speaker:They're not gonna make something separate
Speaker:because they're always .
Speaker:Yeah. So they will eat what
you've already made. Yeah.
Speaker:Which is a fantastic place
Speaker:- To be. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:- That's good. So if you
do a kitchen clean sweep
Speaker:and you throw out everything
Speaker:or donate rather, uh, things
that have multiple ingredients
Speaker:that you don't understand
and you start kind
Speaker:of on a fresh slate and you
start doing the meal prep stuff.
Speaker:Yeah. It, it, it is life
changing in the family.
Speaker:- Okay. I actually wanna
ask you about one thing
Speaker:before we close here.
Speaker:It's about popcorn. Okay.
I actually don't know.
Speaker:I, I actually don't know if I want
Speaker:to know what you think about that.
Speaker:'cause if you ruin this for
me, popcorn's like my thing,
Speaker:- Then you shouldn't Yeah.
Speaker:- Okay. I'm not gonna ask
you . No, I'm not asking.
Speaker:Ignorance truly is a blessing.
Speaker:- Right. Ignorance
- Is s there are some
Speaker:lines, I'm just not willing to cross. The
Speaker:- Emotion that you eat with it Yeah.
Speaker:Is really important. So some
things you don't want to know.
Speaker:- Yeah. I don't wanna know. . Yeah. Okay.
Speaker:So where could people find you
if they wanna learn a little
Speaker:bit more about what you do or learn a
Speaker:little bit more about nutrition?
Speaker:- Um, I, you can find me
pretty much online. I think.
Speaker:I have lots of social media profiles,
Speaker:but I always, I don't,
Speaker:is it okay if I just
give out my email address
Speaker:- Or? Sure.
Speaker:- Yeah. I guess you
already did it basically .
Speaker:- Yeah. No problem. We could
put that in the description.
Speaker:So thank you so much
for joining us, Kelly.
Speaker:We really appreciate it.
Absolutely. Yeah. Dude, I, I,
Speaker:- You guys change my life.
Speaker:You've changed my family life. Mm-hmm.
Speaker:I just had a conversation
with my mom yesterday about
Speaker:how grateful we are Yeah.
Speaker:To be part of this church. Yeah.
Speaker:This church is life changing.
Speaker:- Well, you are part of this
church and I know you're
Speaker:serving in and helping other peoples.
Speaker:Right. And they're in
freedom session right now.
Speaker:I'm Oh, so that's, that's,
Speaker:- Yeah. That's a whole
Speaker:- Nother podcast.
Speaker:That's another podcast. But I mean, that's
Speaker:what makes his church great
is when people lean in.
Speaker:Right. So God uses us.
Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.
Speaker:So thanks so much for listening today
Speaker:and, uh, we hope that
that was helpful for you.
Speaker:Uh, stay tuned for content
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